Monday, May 7, 2007

Erotica Authors Kiss and Tell

By Mathilde Madden

Have you done everything you've written about? It's a question erotica authors get asked so often. Others might shy away from answering it - but, damnit I hang out with these dirty girls and *I* want to know the score. (In fact, in secret, I want it all to be true.)

So I put this question to the Lust Biters and demanded they jolly well tell me. There were handcuffs, thumbscrews and bright lights in the face. I eventually threatened to withdraw access to my archive of hot naked men pics. That clinched it - they all 'fessed up.

First to spill, Janine Ashbless. Janine writes scary fantastical smut. In our last Friday slot she posted a story about a woman encountering a sexy, foul-mouthed fairy on a train that's had me lurking around railway stations ever since. Here's hoping she's going to tell us that really happened.

Janine: I write erotic fairy-stories, fantasy and paranormal. I've written about bloodstained warriors, werewolf orgies, battling magi, undead seducers and (notoriously) a dragon with an enormous ... sexual appetite. And my erotica is almost always about how in the midst of chaos, brutality and strife, passion and love bring meaning to our lives. Have I done everything I've written about? My characters are usually lucky to survive! I'd have no chance.

Well, fair enough. Janine boasts the most ever deaths in a Black Lace novel, so perhaps she does invent some of it.

Let's try Deanna Ashford. I wonder how much she knows about being a slave girl.

Deanna: I have taken my readers to Pompeii, a city of slavery, strange sects [honestly, that's how Deanna spells it] and gladiators. To the Holy Land to face the power of the Templar knights and the sensual confines of a Saracen harem. Yet, even in these diverse places, love blossoms and survives. Have I done all that? No, but we can all dream, can't we?

Hmm, you know, maybe I should stop asking these fantastical types. Perhaps Portia da Costa does some hands-on research for those saucy contemporaries of hers.

I mostly write contemporary romantic erotica full of kink, fun and what I hope is emotional truth. Have I done all the things I write about in my books? Well, I’ve had my share of romance ... But as for the rest? My dears, I simply couldn’t comment!

Portia, you tease! I'll draw my own conclusions. Meanwhile I wonder what Dayle A Dermatis from the Sophie Mouette writing tag team thinks.

Dayle: I've done some of what I've written about. I leave figuring out what as an exercise for the reader.

Figure it out! Phooey! I want details. Nitty gritty. Talking of which, Madelynne Ellis writes the hottest male/male nitty gritty on the block. I suppose we can’t expect her to have done that – unless there's something she isn’t telling us.

Yeah, everything. I regularly pick up gay men in parks, screw shapeshifting demons across the kitchen table and I have my very own Regency rake chained up in the stables out back just waiting for a good lashing (the variety of which I'll let you decide upon).

Ha ha. Hooray. I might pop round and visit that rake of hers sometime. And next up, pretty litty Shanna Germain.

Shanna: Yes, I have. Everything. I've fancied my bike repair guy. I've had orgasms that made me fall on my knees. I've been tied up and tied down. I've eaten food so sexy it can't be called food. I've given the world's best blow job. (Make that blow jobs.) I've drawn blood. I'm having wild hotel-room sex as I write this. I believe everything I read.

Hooray. Another for my 'yes' pile. And you know, that reminds me, I've always wondered what the difference between 'tied up' and 'tied down' is. I must do some internet research on that.

Olivia Knight is a new Black Lace author. She can do html, but don’t let that put you off. Her writing's delicious.

Olivia: Have I had sex? Yes.Have I had sex with my characters? No, I'm not a frigging lunatic. Have I had the same kind of sex as my characters? Mostly, because I don't really write such hardcore stuff, but not necessarily the exact same positions in the exact same order. I have also eaten many meals, but not necessarily the ones I include in my books.

Kristina 'Arthouse Slut' Lloyd gave us this wholly believable confession.

Kristina: I am a virgin. Everything I write about I get from google. Asking for Trouble is set in Brighton where I live. It's a psychological thriller about obsession and sleazy sex. It's one of Black Lace's bestselling books. I did none of the stuff in that book and I've never been sexually obsessed. M'lud.

Which is pretty much what I thought she'd say. Nikki Magennis on the other hand, well, does anyone on the blog get called a mucky little tart more often?

Nikki: Oh baby, you'd better believe it ... I've felt desire, longing, love and lust, pain and disappointment. The peripheral acrobatics may be imagined, but the emotions and sensations my characters feel are as real as I can make them. So I may never have turned kinky somersaults on a hill top, or fucked a Norwegian sailor, but in some way I've experienced what matters most ... the rising heartbeat, the dizziness, the hunger of body and heart.

Gwen Masters seems to write so much for so many different people she'd have to have amazing stamina to do it all. Let's see.

Gwen: For every thing I've written about that I've actually done, there is another story that is pure fiction. But I can tell you this ... I can't write about something that doesn't turn me on. So if I haven't done what I write about in the story, you can bet it's one of my naughty fantasies.

And then there's Madeline Moore. Apart from anything else Madeline lives with the erotica author Felix Baron and has won an award for her oral sex scenes (the ones in her book, that is).

Madeline: I have done almost everything I've written about, and the things I haven't done, that I've written about, are things I've thought a lot about doing, wished I could do, or hope someday to do.

I don't doubt she'll get there in the end. Teresa Noelle Roberts is the other half of the Sophie Mouette team along with Dayle A Dermatis.

Teresa: Hardly. I've never stolen jewels, or been a fire-spotter, or set foot on the continent of Asia. Oh, you mean the sexual 'everything'! The answer is still no. I enjoy an interesting and somewhat non-mainstream private life, but I've written about sexual activities I haven't tried and probably never will.

Like Madelynne Ellis, Alana Noel Voth writes wonderful guy/guy erotica – among other wonderful things – so maybe we'll accept that's fictional because she doesn't have a penis. But how about the rest.

This has driven me nuts for three days, and I finally understand why. It's a ridiculous question!

Meanwhile our cowboy queen Kate Pearce is here and I want to know all about the hot cowboy action she writes.

Well I've had sex, if that's what you mean. But I'm one of those quiet people who say little, believe in true love and have deep thoughts, most of them incredibly kinky. So that's what I write about.

Hmm, nearly at the end and we haven't had a really dirty confession for a while. But I'm sure we can bank on Alison 'Randy Little Bitch' Tyler for that.

Oooh, I love this question. [See, she loves it, the randy little bitch!] I only do 83% of what I write about. The trick is to guess which parts are the 17% that I make up. Have I really watched my lover slip into ladies’ panties? Have I really kissed a waiter at my man’s request? I won’t ever tell. But I will tell you this: Tiffany Twisted, in which a boyfriend and girlfriend change bodies for 30 days? Listen, that's absolutely 100% true.

Oh, Alison, with you we know it's more a question of 'Have you written about everything you've done?' So that's us. If you write erotica, why don’t you answer this annoying question too? And if you read erotica, tell us: Do you want the author to be a randy little bitch in real life? Or if a story feels true and you can believe in its characters, is that good enough to satisfy?

What? Oh, me? Come on, you don’t want to know that about me, do you? You do? Well okay then, I'll tell you this much: I have absolutely no imagination, whatsoever.

Tilly aka Mathilde Madden
Official Lust Bites Nosey Parker

PS (from Kristina Lloyd): We're leading a double-life today. As well as being here, we're also guest blogging on Romance By the Blog. RbtB is a very special place for us. Back in December 2006, our editor was a guest blogger there, several of us joined in the fun, got highly excited, and Lust Bites was conceived that very night. Some of us may remember getting an email which began: The Blogger user Nikki Magennis has invited you to contribute to the private blog: Lust Bites.

I saved that email and it still gives me goosebumps. We had no idea what we were starting. We had no idea if we could sustain it. We had no idea if anybody would be interested in what we had to say. And look at us now! We're flying - and so much of it is thanks to you! Chatters, lurkers, passers-by or guest bloggers - whoever you are, wherever you are, you all add something to Lust Bites. Thank you - we salute you (whatever our sexual kink)! You rock!


Nikki Magennis said...

I can't look at that picture without getting Nick Cave stuck in my head. Mmmm, Nick Cave...

Jeremy Edwards said...

I learned not to try to do everything I write about back in the days of school research papers, after a very disappointing experience involving photosynthesis.

Nikki Magennis said...

What, vegetable porn? Jeremy, really!

Jeremy Edwards said...

Don't laugh! Kristina, the Titillator of Tubers, has recently demonstrated that the vegetable audience is a very receptive one for quality erotic literature.

If only they had credit cards.

Alison Tyler said...

They were flower seeds, Jeremy. Flowers!
There's a difference. Flowers never seem to have as much cash on them as vegetables.

t'Sade said...

Oh, lovely little hints there. :)

Deanna Ashford said...

It was sects not sex! I thought that the sex was a forgone conclusion. Although I will admit that my spelling is a little off kilter at times - thank goodness for the spellchecker.

Madeline said...

Hey MM! This post is great! It all makes sense to me now. There's so much going on with LB today I feel like it's prom night or something. I wish I'd given a more delicious answer to your question. Here's something I've noticed about myself - perhaps because I write such filthy stories, I overcompensate when asked for a quote. I'd hate to seem stuffy! Yeah, I'd really hate to seem stuffy, so I hope I don't, 'cause I'm not. Or maybe because I write about submissive type dames (and I live with Felix so I guess that is a pretty obvious clue as to my own sexual predilictions) I don't want to give 'people' the idea that they can step all over me. Because they most definitely may NOT, unless I ask them to first, of course...'Nuff said? 'Nuff said.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Do you want the author to be a randy little bitch in real life? Or if a story feels true and you can believe in its characters, is that good enough to satisfy?

Cause I think any chicks heading here from RBtheBlog are reading this thread and goin, "huh?" I wanna address this question, maybe restate it for you authors:

Since authors are rock stars to readers now -- and if you didn't know that, let me clue you in -- what if part of the reader fantasy is that not only are the characters having wilder and better sex than the reader is, but the authors are, too?

We know it's awfully annoying, but how horrible is it that readers who love to think and read about sex want to know more about how large a role sex plays in your life? Could it be that they're looking to you for approbation, or validation for their reading preferences/fantasy preferences?

Madeline: how stuffy do I seem after writing that? I mean, I love to read filthy books an all...

Madeline said...

Not stuffy. Intellectual, yes. Stuffy? Non!
I really wonder if it matters to the reader...I'm a reader, too, and I don't think I care if the writer lives the kind of life s/he writes about. In fact, it kind of bugs me if the writer pic on the book jacket is too 'rock starry'... writers aren't like actors, after all. We don't have to look good and lead exciting lives - do we? Don't we just have to have great hands? Anyway, prolific writers really can't be having all that much fabulous sex because fabulous sex, love and obsession all take up so much time!
That said, I wouldn't want to give the impression that I don't have fabulous sex in my life, because I do...but most of it takes place on a King size bed, with the same man.
It's fab, tho...

Nikki Magennis said...

Rock stars? In our pyjamas?

Do readers really want to know how often I have sex?

Okay. Six times.

Anonymous said...

I actually think this is a really interesting question - which is kind of why I made everyone answer it so meanly.

Michelle is right when she says 'authors are rock stars'. When you read a book these days you want to know about the mind that wrote it. Well I do.

And sure, okay, maybe the author hasn't done all those things, but I'd be really annoyed if I read a great sexy book and then I met the author and she said that she didn't even find all that stuff sexy and just wrote it because it would sell.

Also, writers are mad, I like hearing what they have to say.

Anonymous said...

There isn't a rock star in my pyjamas

Portia Da Costa said...

Well, in the interaction I've had with readers, they're generally only interested in what I write and they don't ask questions about my private life.

My own feeling as a reader is that I don't particularly want to know about the real sex life of the erotic writers whose books I enjoy. I'm just interested in the fiction.

Perhaps it's enough that readers know I have similar fantasies... and that makes them feel okay that they have those fantasies too.

Nikki Magennis said...

Okay, here's a few reasons we're coy:

We all have families and some of us have partners/ex partners that may not appreciate an expose.

Plus, there's common sense to consider. Has any writer here NOT received inappropriate or troubling emails/letters? I'm not talking about from our readers. I'm talking about unwanted attention that can easily get scary. That covers people who disapprove of what we do and people who presume that because we write about sex we'd be interested in having it with them.

Part of sexual freedom is choosing what you do and don't want to do - I'm quite happy to chat about sex in the abstract, but I'm not willing to tell all.

And as far as knowing about the writers - when I'm reading books I have to kind of deliberately forget the author, because otherwise it spoils my fantasy!

Alison Tyler said...


6 times what?
6 x 10?
6 x pi?

Is it Nick Cave in your pajamas?

*clearly, I am dizzy from editing*

Portia Da Costa said...

Excellent comment, Nikki! Spot on!

Alison Tyler said...

I don't know. Until I found out that Kristina Lloyd was a virgin, I just pretty much assumed she'd been penning her memoirs.

Or is that just me?

Oh, wait! It *is* just me...

Anonymous said...

I had to start writing paranormals to stop me penning my memoirs.

Kate Pearce said...

I believe Kristina is a 'born again Virgin' (it's a new UK cult)

I'm always totally taken aback when people assume stuff about me because of what I write. I write fantasy-and really, I'm a deeply boring person on the outside-inside I'm mad, as you can tell from my writing but I'm still coming to terms with the whole 'do you do everything you write question' I write this stuff because I love to read it and it makes me hot. I totally forget about the audience at the other end.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

Preface all this convo with my love of nudging folks into detailing their feelings on issues that make them uncomfortable or tick them off, ok, Lusties?

Indeed, Nikki. I'm with you on all points. Yet writers of novels perform a job that necessarily places them in the public eye. And they ask the public to buy their wares, which adds a complication, the old, "careful what you wish for" issue. Plus, add to the published author's public experience the Inet, and you've got another layer of potential creepiness and danger.

So whether we want it, we've got folks feeling closer to us than often is seemly. I love pretty nekkid boy photos, but I've been sent some privately that turn me off. What was it that I wrote that gave the impression I would appreciate the level graphic content offered? I simply wrote honestly of my love for sex and reading about in in myriad forms, even finding pornography not w/out value.

But someone interpreted that through their own lens and offered their idea of sexy, one that made even me uncomfortable. I really can't blame them for it; they don't really know me. I didn't feel threatened by it in these cases. Yet there've been times that mere words have made me feel that way.

Madeline: you wrote:I really wonder if it matters to the reader...I'm a reader, too, and I don't think I care if the writer lives the kind of life s/he writes about. In fact, it kind of bugs me if the writer pic on the book jacket is too 'rock starry'... writers aren't like actors, after all.

We are writers who read, and there's a pretty big difference between us and folks who buy your books and read them, ya know? We may be in our jammies all day (I think bathing while on deadline is highly overrated), but when you're hawkin your wares, readers do want to see you as a celebrity. It's an odd phenomenon, but there you have it.

I mean, let's talk Dan Brown of "D Code" fame. When have you not seen him in his "I'm a writer" turtleneck and tweed jacket? You are as much your brand as your imprint, and, frankly, you deserve to be.

kristina lloyd said...

I think a lot of it is because we live in a sleb-obsessed culture. You can be rich and famous these days for marrying a footballer or being on some crap talentless bit of telly.

It used to be quite normal for books to stand in their own right but, sadly, not any more. There's a hunger for the person. I wish it were otherwise. If I penned, say, detective fiction I'd have the same kind of issues I do now with giving details of my private life.

For me, it's not about sex and people being curious about that. It's about my personal life being mine. Some writers talk about their jobs, family, pets etc. I don't. These things aren't for sale. My fiction, however, is.

Olivia Knight said...

I don't know about the detective novels... Do people who write crime fiction get asked how many people they've murdered and sent pictures of dead people? (shudder) Maybe they do... In which case, I'm glad I chose erotica as my genre de choix!

Completely (or mostly) off the subject, I once read a series of newspaper letters where one person complained about English people pronouncing French words with a French accent. Someone else wrote in and said, "So what the hell does he say when he wants a pain au choc? And which does he get?"

Nikki H said...

My first published story for Cleansheets involved voyeurism. Lesbian voyeurism. But I am neither a lesbian, nor a voyeur. I think readers don't necessarily need to know whether we do all the things in our books, but I think they like to feel validated by the fact that our imaginations are as filthy as theirs.
I think some people can be worried about their own sexual fantasies and so to read about them in a book (and usually wilder fantasies) makes them feel "oh, that's okay, then, I'm not weird.
Not that all sexual fantasies are weird, I might add.

May said...

This has to be one of my fave LB posts!

Personally, it doesn't matter to me, though I do know that I always assume that it's all made up--I'm an unpubbed writer, and I make everything up, so I assume everyone else does.

But at the same time, I know a lot of people who'd be squicked out if they knew anything about the author's sex life.

FYI, Olivia, crime fiction novelists do get asked how many people they've killed. One notable answer I remember is to the effect of "Yes, I kill two people every year just for practise."

Nikki Magennis said...

Nikki H, exactly, exactly, exactly! Reading erotica helped me feel much more comfortable about my fantasies and kinks. But that is what we're dealing with - fantasy. I think most readers appreciate that.

There's plenty of memoirists (is that a word?) and sex bloggers out there that write 'real life sex', and some of it's wonderful. But me, I write fiction. It's worlds apart.

And I don't think that writing does necessarily put the writer in the public eye. Belle du Jour's managed okay without revealing her real identity. And Thomas Pynchon isn't exactly a celebrity. As for what we've wished for...I wish for my work to get attention, not me!

Olivia Knight said...

P.S. I don't feel much like a rock star. Maybe it'll help if I throw the TV out the window?
smashing, clunking, shattering, and tinny rattling noises
Mmm... no. Still not.
suddenly remembers that her novel only actually comes out in July so that rock-star-feeling should officially start in two months time, and stares guiltily at the TV

Anonymous said...

I think quite a lot of the lust biters 'feel like a rock star' most days.

Or possibly two rock stars. Or a football team.

kristina lloyd said...

Uh, did someone say football team?

My potatoes just exploded.

Anonymous said...

Uh, did someone say football team?

My potatoes just exploded.

Can I nominate this for out of context Lust Bites quote of the year?

Alison Tyler said...

Where's Jeremy when you need him? He'll nominate us for Mammoth Book of Best New Blog Comments...

Jeremy! Oh, Jeremy!

Madelynne Ellis said...

I wouldn't mind feeling a rock star, or two...

I'll pass on the football team.

Madelynne Ellis said...

You seem to be having a bit of trouble with exploding tubers at the moment, Kristina... Pods the other day, and now potatoes.

Nikki Magennis said...

Oh god, please can I have the piano player? Please? I'll beg on my knees. Anything. Just give me the pianist...

Hold on, I'm on the wrong blog...

kiki said...

argle! i just wrote a very witty and fun comment and blogger just ate the whole damn thing. how very rude. hmm, now to try and reconstruct...i mentioned something about jeremy - perhaps something about how delightfully witty he is...then i went on to say something like as a reader (i'm not an author, so i can't speak to that at all), i know it's a good book/story/whatever when i don't think AT ALL about the author. i don't WANT to be thinking about the author. i want to be thinking (if it's erotica) about what's going on and how quickly can *I* possibly get off to it. thinking about the author would just get in the way. i tend to giggle when i think about people actually asking you (you authors i mean) if you actually DO everything that is in your books.

this post isn't NEARLY as witty as my last one. ah well.


kristina lloyd said...

Nikki, I have a joke about a twelve inch pianist which I will tell you one day.

Actually, that was the punchline so i just ruined it.

Michelle Buonfiglio said...

All produce aside, you wouldn't be over at my place today if you weren't celebs, now, wouldja, huh? huh?

I've always dropped to my knees for bassists, nikki, but I don't often talk about my music school days now that I'm married.

Alison Tyler said...

Hi Michelle,

That reminds me of my favorite Janis Joplin quote:

"I'm saving the bass player for Omaha."

But I was always partial to horn players, meself.

Alison "randy little bitch" Tyler

Nikki Magennis said...

Okay, my eyes are going crossed. I'm going to retire for the night with my own lovely ex piano player...I'll leave you with this:

The drumming's cool, but keep watching...

(Although it's called 'Amateur' it's not home made porn and it's totally work safe...promise)

Alana said...

Hey Lusties,

You all make me smile. ;-)

Later, I'm contributing a post on Writer Crushes. And so the current debate has me thinking. My approach to the post, I think, is based on my experience, which is I've had crushes not so much on writers as books. So perhaps it's more accurate to say I've had Book Crushes? :-)

For instance, I'm in love with The Catcher in the Rye; the narration, the story, the book's impact on literature. But I know nothing about J.D. Salinger and don't care to. I'm sure I'd be disappointed.

Long time ago, I had a crush on Keifer Sutherland. Then I met him, and the crush went away.

One thing that makes a crush so powerful is the element of mystery involved. The mystique. What our imaginations bring to that crush. Does anyone else agree?

Once I heard this writer named Michael Cunningham read from his book "The Hours." I became gaa-gaa for his dignified demeanor; his warm engaging voice; the way he spoke about his mother; the words he wrote and read aloud to us. I became enamored with his success as a writer, that he'd written something incredible and that the work had been acknowledged as so.

But really, I know nothing about HIM as a person, and so I guess it's safe to say I have a crush on his talent rather than his person.

And I have, by the way, met writers who I wished I hadn't met. Like seriously. Ugh.

Generally speaking, writers aren't celebrities (Anne Rice and Stephen King being contemporary exceptions, and hey! Maybe fans do ask Ms. Rice if she has a cock and fangs; and maybe fans ask Mr. King if he ever buried his wife and kid in a pet semtary, but I sort of doubt it.)

When someone asks me. "Do you do everything you write about?" I assume it's because my stories involve human sexuality, and there is that old adage, "Write what you know." So sure. I've had sex. With multiple people. So what?

I think people fail to understand writers use things like horror, fantasy, and erotica, etc., as a way to get to the emotional context of a story, the human condition behind the decisions characters make. Therefore, the sex is not the story, to quote Marcy Sheiner.

A much better question to ask someone like myself, and the rest of the talented women at Lust Bites is, "Why do you chose to use erotic fiction as a way to explore the human condition?"

Our pathes are different, but we all end up in the same place.


Haley said...

Who do I contact to let you all know that Erastes has consented to give me a wonderful interview on my blog ?

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

If ya'll want rock stars, pick up A Little Night Music when it hits the stores in August! (Yes, that was an utterly shameless plug, for I am utterly shameless.)

Alana, I like your question much better! :-)

Anonymous said...

I have to say, I get crushes on characters in books far more than on the authors.

This maybe why I write so much fanfiction

Alana said...

Kristina, forgot to mention the guy-on-guy kiss pic is hot. Did you post that just for me? :-) OK, I know you didn't but thanks!!!!

Alison, my very first kiss was with a trombone player, eighth grade, band trip, and he'd just eaten a bag of Doritos. He had strong lips but bad breath. :-)

Nx, forgot what I was going to say to you. I had something. Damn.

Dayle, you're shameless plug was brilliantly positioned here.

Kiki, that has also happened to me: a blof has eaten my brilliance. Thank you for your comments.

Nikki, still drawing a blank.


Alana said...

A blof! :-)

Jeremy Edwards said...

Sorry I missed my cue! I was out in the garden reading (aloud), and, well, one thing led to another. But, now that I think about it, there was a strange burning sensation in my ears. And after catching up with my comment reading (aloud), I'm blushing. Which means that the face now matches the ears (PANTONE 1767C). If it's not too late, I hereby nominate your collective work for Best of the Best of the Best Blog Comments! I'd also like to nominate kiki for "Best Use of 'Argle!'" (assuming they haven't discontinued that category).

Kate Pearce said...

phew what a day!
(Kate sits down, with a beer and a fag (not that kind of fag you Americans) I'm all blogged out, completely knackered...)

What? You're all still here?
Don't you have homes to go to?

(Kate switches off the light to encourage the last lusty commentator to leave)

I'm a Californian now baby, I always get the last word :)
that is if Alison Tyler isn't still up...

Alison Tyler said...

Oh, Kate, sweet Kate,
I'm always up.

In fact, I'm on my way over to share your beer...
Or your, um, fag...

kiki said...

*blush* i'm so pleased to be nominated for best use of argle - sometimes it's argle fucking bargle, but today it was just the tame argle (hmmm, is it okay to say fucking? i'm assuming it's okay to say fucking here, but one never knows...). i hope it's still a category. i can just imagine the award.

and here in nevada it's only 5:40

Alana said...

Alison, will you share your fag with me?

Alison Tyler said...


I think Kate took the fag from your pack.
We'll have to ask her...

But to answer your question, I'm always happy to share...


Dayle A. Dermatis said...

I think it's just you and me left, Alison... ;-)

Alison Tyler said...

Oh, damn, Dayle...
I guess the party's over.
I never want it to end!

Should we clean up tonight, or sleep in the rubble?

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

I vote for sipping another glass of crisp white wine or smoky Scotch while loading the dishwasher, then giggling as we kick our way through the streamers and balloons and panties on the floor, on our way to bed.

Or maybe sleeping in the rubble isn't such a bad idea--streamers and balloons and random panties sound like the makings of an erotic artistic project!

Alison Tyler said...

...or a very sexy first chapter of a novel... I like the concept of starting after the party's ended.

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

Careful, or we'll have a collaboration on our hands...

Ooh, and we'll only write it after midnight, when everyone else is asleep!

Alison Tyler said...

You even got the title, Dayle!

"After Midnight..."

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

What, not After the Party? (Not to be confused with When the Party's Over, an early Sandra Bullock movie. Then again, mmm, Sandra...)

kristina lloyd said...

*wakes up, bleary-eyed*


Um, where are my knickers?

And what's that fascinum doing in here?

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

Your knickers are part of a super-secret erotic art project. You didn't want them back, did you?!

Alison Tyler said...

Oh, come on Kristina, how many times do I have to tell you? I'm *wearing* your knickers...

kristina lloyd said...

Nyeurgh ... where did the footballers go to?

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

And the rock stars?

Alison Tyler said...

Oh, wait. The rock stars are wearing KL's knickers...

*It's the vodka, Tilly. I swear. It's the vodka...*

Dayle A. Dermatis said...

And the potatoes, for that matter?

Jeremy Edwards said...

I love the way the atmosphere has evolved into a delicate overlapping of the final stages of the evening and the beginning of the morning after. Always the sign of a good party (and of people operating in disparate time zones).

Um, where are my knickers?

And what's that fascinum doing in here?

If you fascinum, maybe you won't keep losing 'em.

(But what would be the fun in that?)

Jeremy Edwards said...

Hey, "83% Alison"-- since you were candid enough to give us numerical data earlier in the discussion, I wonder if you'd be willing to field another quantitative question:

How many pairs of Kristina's panties are you wearing at this point? I seem to have lost my scorecard.

Karl Friedrich Gauss said...

What a fun party you guys have happening here. If I may step back from it for a moment, I'd like to look at what I see as a bigger question behind the question you're asking about whether an erotic author has experienced what they're writing about. I think that question is: "How authentic is the story?". I mean, with some stories you might wonder if something like that story ever happened between people who had that kind of a relationship together. If you know that it's memoir (Alison's blog, for instance) then you can give it more credence than if you suspect it's something someone wrote "out of the blue" to satisfy a niche market.

To say you're writing fiction doesn't to me automatically say that the story is inauthentic or that it never happened. In fact I think the best fiction is somehow channelled from other people's lives and that that's what Alison, for instance, is talking about when she says her fictional characters rebel and won't do what she thinks they should in certain instances.

Kate Pearce said...

Karl...can't you see we all have hangovers? It's 6 o'clock in the morning and you're asking intelligent questions-jeez
Need coffee
even though I don't drink it cos I still prefer tea

Nikki Magennis said...

'the best fiction is somehow channelled from other people's lives'

Watch out, drunk blogging ahead:

Yep, but they may not necessarily be the writer's life/ best, a fiction writer can tap into some universla consciousness - I just typed consciouseness pissed, how cool is that? - and connect with something larger than themselves.

S'make sense? (Kate, the only cure for a hangover...)

Night, all x